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Question. >> you know, caitlyn, rudy giuliani says president trump didn't know michael cohen was pitching this kind of access. do you think that defense, though, will hold up? >> well, wolf, the president has a tendency of people putting the credibility on the line and then going back and contradicting what he's had them go in public and say. we saw it with the press secretary sarah sander who is's telling us for weeks that according to what she said the president told her he didn't know about that payment to stormy daniels and of course we have now learned not only did he know about it he pai...

Using him as touting the access to donald trump and not surprising if he did it and the president knew about it now just because he was in office. >> chris, did you find rudy giuliani's explanation to dana bash today plausible? >> it's basically only explanation he can give, wolf, without creating a -- he's good that the and without creating a massive controversy saying, yeah, president knew that michael cohen selling access to him in the presidential transition, i mean, i think he get into really problematic, certainly political waters. i always say susan's advice on legal stuff and murky leg...

Scenario. where you have someone close to a politician in this case, close to the president of the united states which is highly unusual selling access, potential access to the president of the united states. i don't believe that michael cohen is registered as a lobbyist or registered in order to be able to represent any foreign agents. this is a big deal. we had to have been receiving this money for something and unclear as to what the excuse is. and let us remember this, up until at least april of this year, michael cohen continues to serve as the personal attorney of the president of the un...

Close to a politician, in this case close to the president of the united states, which is highly unusual selling access, potential access, to the president of the united states. >> reporter: cohen did not respond for comment. a source tells cnn that mueller also questioned viktor vekselberg about his cousin's generous campaign contributions to mr. trump including a $250,000 donation to the president's inauguration fund. "the new york times" reports that both viktor vekselberg and introder attended president trump's inauguration where they met with cohen before setting up the arrangement. finan...

The billionaire victor vexilberg is one of russia's richest men and has close ties to russia's president vladimir putin. nbc news has reviewed financial documents that appear to support avenatti's charge. he alleges that money from the oligarch related company was deposited from the same account cohen used to wire a hush money payment of $130,000 to daniels. avenatti today accused cohen of selling access. let's watch. >> you've got millions of dollars that are being deposited in this account. michael cohen seems to be selling access to the president of the united states. >> today michael cohen...