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Care -- because we're running now hospitals. the border patrol these are incredible people. they're doing what they -- you know, nobody ever thought they were going to be doing this. and the reason people are coming up is because we're doing so well as a country. in past years we weren't doing well. past years, you know, they took 32% of our -- now we're the hot economy. and the reason people are coming up is because we had a separation policy. president obama built those cells. in 2014 they were built. they all said look how horrible, and then it turned out it was built by president obama. an...

We are running now hospitals, border patrol, these are incredible people. the reason people are coming up is we are doing so well is a country in past years, mexico, they took 32% of cargo and now we are the hot country in the world and people are coming up because they want a piece of that action and the reason children are coming up is we had a separation policy under president obama, 2014, look how horrible they turned out, it was built by president obama. i'm not blaming him. they had a separation policy. what i ended, it is going to

We needed that. to take care. we're running hospitals. the border patrol. these are incredible people. they're doing what they nobody ever thought they were going to be doing this. people are coming up. the reason people are coming up is because we're doing so well as a country. past years we weren't. mexico was doing better than we were in the past. we're the hot country in the world. people want a piece of the action. the other reason children are coming up we had a separation policy. under president obama. president obama built the cells. 2014 they were built. it ourned out it was built by ...

>> john kelly, who was in the white house, pushing the child separation policy, supporting it. >> it was his idea. julia ainsley drew up the reporting. john kelly went on cnn and confirmed the separation policy was something he was thinking about. ultimately, we're at one of the ground zeros for the most extreme immigration policy we've seen in modern american history. and i don't think it came out of -- it was nice to hear julian castro talk about it. it was nice that savannah guthrie put the question, got the conversation going. i wish we would have gotten into more specifics not just we don...

This shows the cruelty of donald trump and the republican party. this is going to be a big election issue. this goes right to moral character in a place that every american, no matter where they are, small children, who die because of donald trump's cruel policies, that is unacceptable, to almost every decent human being that is an american citizen. >> howard, i don't like using the fix of a fence as a panacea. i'm not against a fence. everybody knew it wasn't a fix for this situation and this president is going to have some ownership of that. but there's a lot of shame to go around here and t...