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American, no matter where they are, small children, who die because of donald trump's cruel policies, that is unacceptable, to almost every decent human being that is an american citizen. >> i don't like using the fix of a fence. i'm against a fence. everybody knew it wasn't a fix for this situation and this president is going to have some ownership of that. but there's a lot of shame to go around here and this has existed for a long time and the rule is in place right now make no sense and they're not doing anything except pointing fingers. i think it hurts everybody. >> the separation policy...

Frankly this was not the scenario that we were dealing with under the bush or obama administrations. i mean, there seems to be a clear link between the president's policies and what's happening at the border. >> well, kasie, we've never seen this type of influx into our country before. we are on track to have a million illegal people apprehended this year at the border. we have never seen this. i mean, it's just unprecedented. for a lot of reasons, one, the economy is so strong people are coming here to get jobs. the presidents had a policy in place that was adopted under president obama which...

To say it was not a prison was a lie. even the man who ran it, his normal job is to set up tent cities after natural dis aaster he side this is a asinine the wap he used to describe the separation policy. this place had ten beds to use for medical. they had mess tents. one of them looked like the stations of the cross. they didn't look like pictures a little kid would draw. there was a fresh saw that had been laid that day on which kids were playing soccer. the older boys would make eye contact and i speak enough spanish to ask how are you. all you could ask is how are you and how is the food....

Administration. right? i know you, after serving our country in iraq, you later worked at the office of the u.s. trade representative under obama and trump 2017. this is how president trump has characterized this over this past weekend. >> but i ended separation. i inherited separation from president obama. president obama built -- they call them jail cells. >> let's talk about what's happening now. your administration, you're not doing the recreation. you're not schooling these kids any more. you've gotten rid of all of that stuff. >> we're doing a fantastic job under the circumstances. the d...

Were a trump administration policy that it was all actually begun when you were there working in the obama administration. let's listen to this. >> president trump built -- they call them jail cells -- they were built by the obama administration. >> let's talk about now. you're not even schooling these kids anymore. we've gotten -- >> we're doing a fantastic job under the circumstances. the democrats aren't even approving giving us money. i'm the one that changed the plan. i inherited separation. and i changed the plan. and i brought people together. when i did that, i said watch what happens....