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Defense secretary briefed from the white house. just doesn't happen. i've seen presidents, obama and bush, go and brief at the pentagon, but i've never seen it the other way around. it speaks to the degree to which -- and my colleagues will probably be smart er on this thn me, but the degree to which they want to make this budget deal about military spending and it make it that much harder for people to vote against it, jim mattis going to the white house briefing room with a full-throated endorsement. maybe they'll have their causes but that makes it tough. >> and one thing that unified both ...

It. but no more from my perspective. >> neil: so republicans are not saying another sequestration deal, or backup deal on spending, this would not be it. >> go into the into it. s. we have not talk about them at all. this is the place to look, entitlements. not the military. we have young men and women whose lives are put in jeopardy because of politics in washington, dc. that's unacceptable. >> neil: when you talk about entitlements, you would be open to raising the retirement age? >> neil: and as a matter of fact we ought to look at federal employees, military, maybe moving that to 25 years ...

Politics. this is going to gut our defenses. you don't have to save $45 billion this year. that is 4% of the deficit. we will endanger the national defenses and short change the service men and women overseas for the sake of cutting 4% from the deficit? it is totally irresponsible. >> bill is right that you captain have massive tax reform in just 60 days. it took ronald reagan and tip o'neill and bill bradley a bipartisan bill in 1986, 20 montes to do it. there is things like nascar track owners and wind energy producer and port rehe can rum manufacturers that would more than offset the defens...

Politics. this is going to gut our defenses. you don't have to save $45 billion this year. that is 4% of the deficit. we will endanger the national defenses and short change the service men and women overseas for the sake of cutting 4% from the deficit? it is totally irresponsible. >> bill is right that you captain have massive tax reform in just 60 days. it took ronald reagan and tip o'neill and bill bradley a bipartisan bill in 1986, 20 montes to do it. there is things like nascar track owners and wind energy producer and port rehe can rum manufacturers that would more than offset the defens...

News made in that interview and it had to do with an open disagreement that romney has with the republican leaders who struck a deal to extend the debt ceiling, you remember last summer, that required automatic spending cuts for defense and social programs that would take effect january 1st. this is what he said. >> this sequestration idea of the white house, which is cutting our defense, i think, is an extraordinary miscalculation. >> republican leaders agreed to that deal to extend -- >> i think it's a big mistake. i thought it was a mistake on the part of the white house to propose it. i th...