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to look at the evidence. look at where this is headed in our special report for you. we start with one reason this looms large. mike pence is not just another witness. he's not just a high-ranking official in the attempted coup conspiracy. this is very important. we touched on it last night briefly. the coup plotters viewed pence as their desired mvp, their needed collaborator, they attempted co-conspirator. >> the remedy was for vice president pence to remand those votes back to the states. >> the vice president's got a lot of power, and that's very important to recognize. vz we to ...

>> a lot of decisions here you'll admit and said you're sorry. but what was motivating you? what was going on inside you? >> look, here's the deal. i would have never gotten the nomination from the nassau county gop if i had not concluded college. that was the main driver. >> so that's sort of directly stating it. he's been called a serial lish. he's under investigation, a state probe. the headlines keep coming. accused of running a sponzi scheme under s.e.c. scrutiny. he's also charged with theft five years ago after bad checks were written in his name to dog breeders. and he's not only a pun...