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Fact, pulled apart the country's red and blue divisions, made them even worse, and that has sort of added to the -- to the tragedy itself, but we now have a public health tragedy and a civic tragedy in this country, and you can see it getting worse still every day. >> and it's within the state of texas, right, so there's going to be a very different response to this in dallas, in the suburbs of dallas than there will be in rural parts of texas, and the calculation is, at least for now, the blue parts of dallas are not big enough to overcome the red parts of the rest state. there are other stat...

Governor is up for re-election. >> you should mandate what they can't mandate. >> it's very hard to follow because it's not ideological. it is this idea that there is a base that is very upset about mandates. they don't want vaccines and you have a governor who is worried about re-election who is saying i have to get out here and look like i'm ready for a fight and i'm sure he wants to fight the federal government on this. that will be in his favor. >> how much -- berourke tweeting this, 68,000 texans have died from covid on abbott's watch. more will die as he prevents employers from protectin...

Set out abbott is facing his first serious primary challenges who have made covid-19 one of the biggest issues. i'm going to call the governor tacking right, tacking to where the base of the party is. there's also this if you look at his recent history, tried to position himself, the governor of florida ron desantis is i'm the anti-bidench they have some hope that trump dis-austin powers and if you look recently texas governor abbott's were banning vaccinations and the texas abortion law in the highlights there, abbott promised that the border agents not be punished by the biden straights. joe...