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The conservatorship. and she's striking because her testimony, as you point out, was foundational to many of the legal documents around that moment when the conservatorship went into place. and she was one of the few people who was in the courtroom, as this was created. and saw the saga that led up to its creation. so, she really provides a window into a family that, yes, had, i think, some sincere intentions and that are about britney spears' best interests and some concern for her wellbeing. but also, a family that was divided by fame and money. and financial dependency on britney spears. an...

Guess. but now, she regrets it. what do we know? i mean, it was a very short hearing, in and of itself, right? >> jacqueline butcher is one of the dozens of sources that we talked to around the creation of the conservatorship. and she's striking because her testimony, as you point out, was foundational to many of the legal documents around that moment when the conservatorship went into place. and she was one of the few people who was in the courtroom, as this was created. and saw the saga that led up to its creation. so, she really provides a window into a family that, yes, had, i think, some ...