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Trump both benefit from this close relationship with the stories, that's kind of part of sean's snarky reference to, you know, none of your business, i've got my secrets, but the fact is that they are very close in terms of setting policy as well as setting the public image. trump, one of the great legends, one of the great myths is that donald trump hates the media. as we've seen. we loves the media, that he can manipulate and only hates when we don't cooperate in the way that he would like. so it's going to be interesting to see how effective bill shine is in helping implement that game plan...

I read but libby schaaf put out, and frankly, it was more of, hey, i.c.e. is coming. not targeting a specific neighborhood. we need these communities to cooperate with us. if i.c.e. has information about these rapists are talking about, we don't tolerate that in san francisco. >> laura: you do tolerate it. >> you do tolerate it. >> there is no way san francisco tolerates rapists and his other criminals you are talking about. >> every criminal alien since 2010. >> laura: your releasing them into the system, joe. we don't want to pile on you. you are not the one setting policy. but it is frustra...

And frankly, it was more of, hey, i.c.e. is coming. not targeting a specific neighborhood. we need these communities to cooperate with us. if i.c.e. has information about these rapists are talking about, we don't tolerate that in san francisco. >> laura: you do tolerate it. >> you do tolerate it. >> there is no way san francisco tolerates rapists and his other criminals you are talking about. >> every criminal alien since 2010. >> laura: your releasing them into the system, joe. we don't want to pile on you. you are not the one setting policy. but it is frustrating when an immigration detainer...

Large? >> you can't easily look past the comments because the comments tells you the basis and premise that he's setting policy. so if you're looking at his immigration policy and realize the basis of it is his bias and his prejudice, then it reflects on the entire resulting immigration policy. the other thing, david, i felt was interesting as a minister, he's going to christmas services tonight, kelly told us. the interesting part of that, he campaigned about we should be talking about merry christmas, not the season -- bring kleist in. jesus kleist was a refugee. i hope tonight whoever preac...

I think we all know that we have disagreed with her. and i really think it's a lot more, they don't no what he she was supposed to do, because they'd never done it. i've never seen a black in a high position at trump towers when he was running there. so what are we talking about there? they're going to say she didn't know what her job was. they don't know what her job of reach out is. and you've got to have something to reach out with. >> exactly. >> let's go to the broader issue here. you are, aside from hosting "a.m. joy" and all that that has brought to this nation have been an offer and ha...