Eight years against russia so they know the game it's gonna be a nasty war, it may very well turn out to be an urban war, and there is nothing war's, and he wore his bad, but an urban war is just horrendous. we need to stand with ukraine. we need to, not only hopes and prayers, but also money supplies and ammunition and we are going to have to deal with the refugees that are under already leaving it's gonna be weeks and months. >> on highways, we're seeing long lines and rail stations, and you mentioned the loss of life, we are already hearing the first reports of casualties. a bombing in pudd...