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We should move forward expeditiously on this. i think the president had a right the say hey, he is my guy in middle east over and overrule this. i don't recollect ever hearing somebody say the president says give somebody who has questions, where we have questions about his background, overrule that. i might be wrong. >> a lot to unpack here, right? as phil knows, there are two different things being debated here as well. there is a ts, a top secret, and there is an sci. sci is specialized compartmentalized information. the ts is granted. the sci was not, is still not granted. i filled this ou...

There's all kinds of software for doing this. it was simply to keep their bar affiliation. we have people who do reality tv or they are news readers and do "fox & friends" carney kind of stuff and of course they aren't able to pass any of this. that's how we end up with jared kushner, who can't pass his sf-86 to save his life. >> ivanka trump i don't think can be on a board of a charity in new york. >> exactly. >> but she can represent the united states in munich. >> the last point, to michelle's point, another reason she doesn't want it is these positions that ivanka's actually been stuck in,...

Whatever the number was, that part of it they got backlog, caught up because so many of the people that president trump brought in, his friends, his business colleagues have extensive business holdings, have extensive foreign ties, because of the nature of their business careers and security was struggling with it. that's not normally what you have with people holding security clearances. most people don't have that. so it's very possible that for at least some of it, this was just an issue of a backlog of them struggling to figure out what to do one way or another and kline was trying to clea...

Background investigations. the lead comes from the white house to fbi headquarters. headquarters put what's is called the sf 86, a 136-page application together with identifying who, when and what should be interviewed. it's very specific. sometimes it includes the specific questions that we should ask. we go out, we conduct those interviews. in the course of me interviewing someone, i develop information that may be unknown to the white house. it may be derogatory. may be otherwise. i'm not authorized to follow up on that information. i prepare a report. i send it back to headquarters. they s...

So, mark, this report that kavanaugh was involved in a bar fight in 1985, does this factor into the investigation, do you think? >> it wouldn't normally. on the sf-86 the standard national security form even as a federal judiciary nominee, he does not require security clearance by virtue of his position he is deemed to be trustworthy but they still fill out that form because it's a great first set and then has a senate application paperwork he fills out too. but being questioned by the police would never come up on the form. it could potentially come up in an interview or perhaps a colleague o...