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Behind the scenes i want to share with you on what "new york times" reported this morning. kushner believes he's being perfectly targeted, insisting he keeps his current level of access. jared kushner not just any ranking file staffer he is the president's son-in-law. joining us terra, and eugene and that meesh is still here. terra, you have been but there security clearance process. bhas the risk of something not having a clearance 13 months into the administration? >> there are a number of risks. it means screening individuals on psychological behaviors. the sf-86 form which is just the

Security issues. they kept on michael flynn for two weeks after sally yates came and told them he was a national security risk. they've been cavalier about filling out their sf-86. they don't seem to think it's a big problem to omit things. so i think that they believe that this process is an annoyance and not something that's actually there to protect the country. >> jason, just from a communications standpoint, we are now in week two of this story. had they handled this directly and forthrightly early on, i don't know that we would still be here talking about this. and chris wray coming forw...

General carry cordero also the senior assistant general, and retired fbi mike rogers. i should note for the viewers both of you have been through the security clearance process yourself. but congressman rogers i'll start with you. do you agree with dan coats anyone working on security clearance should have some limitations on intelligence they are able to receive? >> i do, unless it is a very rare circumstance indeed. and by now people who have been at the white house some length of time should have a determination on their clearance. so i get a little concerned, and i'll tell you why, sends a...

And the whole point of conducting these background checks is to determine whether the people who have access to the most sensitive information are trustworthy, have good judgment, have good moral character. you go through training as an fbi agent on how to ask the right questions to suss these things out. this is clearly something that would have come to the surface in a background check. but anderson, remember that this is an administration that hasn't been hypervigilant about security issues. they kept on michael flynn for two weeks after sally yates came and told them he was a national secu...

Staffer would have filled out, did he tell the truth? you are specifically asked about any record, any restraining orders, any domestic violence. do we know if he identified this on his initial forms? >> look, the white house has said they felt misled by how porter described it but the answer to your question is, nope, we don't know that, along with so many other things that we don't know at this point. >> all right. i lied about last words. matt miller, i'm going to let you weigh in on that. that, to me, seems like one of the flashing red lights here, if he disclosed this on his sf -- the fir...