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Says on the phone. >> it's remarkable the flattening of information is remarkable. normal presidents view classified information from the intelligence community and assessment based on inputs that come from signal intel and human sources and they view that product. the product comes from multikel agencies, allies, sometimes countries we're not great friends with but share information. and they view that has having more credence than a phone call or five calls with a foreign leader or something he saw on fox news. >> that's just it. you hit the keywords there. fox news. that's often -- the pres...

Countries we're not great friends with but share information. and they view that has having more creed eps than a phone call or five calls with a foreign leader or something he saw on fox news. >> that's just it. you hit the keywords there. fox news. that's often -- the president seems to value what he sees on television from a cable news broadcast, particularly his favorite one, more so than, at least as much as what he gets from the classified intelligence reports. he doesn't get the rigorous briefings some of his predecessors did. much shorter, more graphics. he doesn't give it the same wei...

Detention hold on somebody who may be wanted for a crime in another country. it helps share information to go after international criminals. arms traffickers, hackers is a big thing right now. organized crime. this is how you go after these games. it's through the sharing, through the relationships which help countries investigate a case. trust is the backbone of this system. if you don't have trust that the best will of the participants. russia has been an abuser of this. bill brouwer is the famous person who writes about how the kremlin can use this to go after their opponents around the wor...

Are we safer now rather than then. >> i think if you look at the way agencies cooperate and share information. we're definitely a lot better than we used to be before 9/11. if you look at the threat itself and how it mutated after 9/11 after the iraq war and the arab spring. the ideology is way more spread than it used to be on 9/11. before 9/11. osama bin laden had 400 people who pledged loyalty to him. now there are thousands and thousands. literally, that kind of cancer has spread. >> we think of these groups as

Of them. >> but i voted for a lot of republican nominees. both at the supreme court, courts of appeals and district court. >> yes. >> but when i opposed one, i was raising very questions about funding that she was getting from people that were before her court, that might have raised a red flag that i had some concerns about her. now, when you worked at the white house, did anyone ever tell you they had a mole that provided them with secret information related to nominations? >> i don't recall the reference to a mole which sounds highly specific. but certainly it is common again, the people be...