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Ke kellyanne is, no question about it, she runs over sbrinterviewe all the time. does it with clefr neverness, w tactics. but it exposes the reality that they cannot explain away the lies of this president. maybe it's criminal. maybe it isn't. maybe it matters the mueller probe to the presidency, maybe it doesn't. but the lying has to matter. >> yeah. >> and i lay it out example after example of what it is, and i keep her on task about it the best i can. and it to tto the extent that s varies, to the ex-temtent she redirects, it's all evidence she wants to avoid. >> you know i don't want to be...

Isn't. maybe it matters, the mueller probe to the presidency, maybe it doesn't. but the lying has to matter. >> yeah. >> and i lay it out example after example what it is. i keep her on task about it to the best i can. to the extent she varies, to the extent she redirects, it's all evidence of what they want to avoid. i think it's instructive to the american people. >> you know i don't want to beat you up. >> i know you don't think she should be on tv. i don't believe in silencing the other side. >> it's not silencing the other side. it is not a right for someone to come on cnn and lie and def...