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I don't think anybody is buying this shell game that the russians are playing, which is that, okay, any attack against russia, they'll say, is a very serious escalation. then they take land and say, now this is part of russia, you better not attack it. that doesn't really hold any water in the international side of things. i do think it allows putin and the kremlin to do more nuclear sabre-rattling. because they want us to be very worried about this, they want us to be very concerned about the potential use of nuclear weapons. and of course, you can't be flip about it. they are very serious we...

No longer escape because of the photograph we saw the other day with the words top secret on documents on the floor. they can no longer say there's an excuse for having top secret documents because we know they were there, and we know they're in the president's desk, so now there's a use of language to say it wasn't top secret. it was sensitive. it wasn't top secret. it was highlibrary books. they're switching language because there's no more excuses. >> they're running -- i said this last night. >> a shell game. >> i said this last night after trump's response to the doj response. they're run...

Arbitrarily pick winners and losers play a shell game with the debt, because the debt isn't going anywhere. in many instances because there's no balanced budget, there's no sense of control on the $30 trillion in debt. those individuals think they're getting $10,000 or $20,000 off their loan, it's getting deferred into higher taxes down the road they'll have to pay taxes on. this is a political shell game with money. again, it's a really, really bad idea. even nancy pelosi said the president couldn't do this. >> governor, i want to ask about something president biden said during remarks at a c...

There's no balanced budget, there's no sense of control on the $30 trillion in debt. those individuals think they're getting $10,000 or $20,000 off their loans, it's getting deferred into higher taxes down the road they'll have to pay taxes on. this is a political shell game of money. again, it's a really, really bad idea. even nancy pelosi said the president couldn't do this. >> governor, i want to ask about something president biden said during remarks at a closed dnc reception this past week. he criticized what he called a, quote, extreme maga philosophy in your party. he said, quote, it's ...

I pay $278.03 for three years between my wife and i to pay student loans back. we were happy to pay it, low interest loans. you write your check, you move on. and i take exception with individuals, especially out of washington, saying this is a student loan crisis. what's the crisis? folks get a degree, they get a job, we have more high-paying jobs than ever before for young people. there are low-interest loans, they've been deferred for a couple of years. the average loan, it's high. it's about $43,000 in america. that's a lot of money. but you can write that $200 or $300 check a month and pa...