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Said privately. that is not what i do. what i do say to you is, he moved to fundamentally change the system. that's what he did. that's what he did. but much more has to be done, much more has to be done -- >> i still don't have an answer. >> first of all, you can't have it both ways. you invoke president obama more than anybody in this campaign. you can't do it when it's convenient and dodge it when it's not. and the second thing, and this irks me. if you got a ph.d., you can come right into this country. that's playing into what the republicans want, to pit some immigrants against some immig...

Do you think it's not racist? >> point of order. the gentleman will suspend. >> is that what you're saying right now, mr. collins? >> so congressman, you officially withdrew those words because it is a violation of house rules to specifically say that the president himself on the floor is racist or bigoted. would you do it again? >> actually, poppy, i withdrew the word shit hole. that was the word i was asked to withdraw. so i repeated it again. i was asked to withdraw that word because that word, under the house rules, is vulgar. the point i was making is if you're going to object to me sayin...

Directly, but they have repeatedly over the last several months said that democrats are trying to relitigate the mueller investigation. the president calling it a fishing expedition in a tweet. i think you can expect to hear more about that tonight when he's at that campaign rally in north carolina. >> multiple targets. abby phillip, thanks very much. >> let's talk about this and more with democratic congressman eric swalwell of california. serves on both the judiciary and intel committees. a busy week next week, no question, but before us, a few topics. let's begin with your exchange last nig...

What we are, are four lawmakers who happen to land in the same place on the same issues time and time again. >> joining us now, "new york times" congressional correspondent julie hirschfield davis and perry bacon. perry, striking to me just in the moment reading that that that's a headline. that it's such a big headline that a democratic congresswoman is working to set up a meeting with the speaker of the house. what does that tell us? >> i don't know what the word insurgency means to the congresswoman, but there's a real tension here between what i think of as the left, left of the democratic...

And for -- demonizing immigrants and talking about hit hole countries and very fine people on both side. for people of color in the country it's a life or death issue. ask heather hires mother who i had on. it's life or death issue. we need to be careful about a having this is a standard rule. this is not standard. this is not normal. >> it's not standard or normal. he is different than what we have seen. however. we talk about this and it's good that we do. comparing anything to an extreme like a hitler. weakens the argument. >> it gives you a example. >> comparing him to a genocide maniac. >...