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Going forward and manage it. >> one of the things they could have done is they don't believe competition works. why not remove barriers who-to-have nationwide shopping for health insurance. i live in new jersey. we have crazy regulations. can i buy almost a similar policy in pennsylvania. half the price can i in new jersey. can i buy a house in pennsylvania. i can't buy insurance. why not have nationwide shopping. have hundreds of companies compete. then you will start to see some real innovation. >> that was discussed. why wasn't that part of this. why wasn't that obstacle to that? >> ideolog...

If he do get it fixed, debby wasserman schultz may have a point that more people will be ensured. >> what about those who lost insurance? >> they're getting better insurance. >> you're addressing access. they'll fix the website but they're not addressing the affordability part of it. >> of course they will because if you have access to the website you can shop on these exchanges for cheaper more affordable health care. if they don't, they're going to be in a lot of trouble come 2014, i agree with that. >> the shopping aspect is not there. take it from a shopper. it's not that affordable. >> yo...