Is this something we could see happen, at least the never have a shutdown act >> kevin mccarthy is a good man. but that seems to me to be a gimmick. the most important thing is we never hold hostage hard working public servants. >> do you want to legislate that >> we should take a hard look at making sure we don't pursue shutdowns as a means of trying to extract leverage, whether that's a democratic president or republican president >> let me go back on what i was trying to get at the republicans infamously had a speaker of the hou rule called the hastert rule, that referred to the idea of the...