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Know who has sold it and to who. why would a gun be deemed less significant for a background check than a car or registration? we register all sorts of things in this country. why not guns? they're the most dangerous thing out there. >> actually, i think cars kill an awful lot of people. but the objective fact is that in this country, if i were to buy a gun from one of my son-in-laws, do i go through a background check? what does that mean? >> yes. yes. you do. >> why? why? >> because i want to know, i want to know if you're a criminal, i want to know if you're mentally sound. sorry if again i...

Arguments that wayne lapierre puts up against having any new gun control, the idea that criminals won't obey laws seems to me to be the most stupid, because if that was the criteria for any law in america, you wouldn't have any. you wouldn't have any drunk driving laws, you wouldn't have any, you know, under 21 ban on drinking or anything. you would just have the complete wild west, because criminals don't obey the law. am i wrong here? >> look, let's take the examples, and i hate to disappoint you, but let's take the examples of the recent cases. the young man in connecticut was using his mot...

You've had some time to think about this. the thumping on the bible claim from bill o'reilly. interesting that bill o'reilly was saying that, saying look, these issues may not be religious masses. they need to be addressed in a different way, perhaps, by the conservatives. >> you know, you're always dealing with the god of the margins, you know, as compassion grows, as science grows, you just keep taking the bible less and less literally and that's good. and i think for all the sadness and all the persecution that gays have, and i know 50 years is a horrible amount of time if you're the victim...

You know, the hipaa laws and all of these privacy laws that medical conditions mean that i, as a gun seller, could do a background check on somebody who wants a gun, but there's no way that i have any access to know that that person is mentally ill, which has been the pattern with some of these most recent shooters that you point out. so, i, as a mother of children ages 8, 8, 5 and 3, you're damn right i want to know about people with guns out there. >> but, billy, i know there's a cultural thing in america. i know many people believe the second amendment entitles them to have any gun they l...

1927. you have to register -- you have to have a permit for a handgun. and have you seen detroit lately? so i'm for true background checks and true knowing who has the gun if it's -- and knowing about that person who wants a gun. here's a great example, piers. you know, the hipaa laws and all of these privacy laws that medical conditions mean that i, as a gun seller, could do a background check on somebody who wants a gun, but there's no way that i have any access to know that that person is mentally ill, which has been the pattern with some of these most recent shooters that you point out. ...