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Challenging president trump for the republican presidential nomination. mark sanford and joe walsh. congressman sonford, the president called for both ukraine and china to investigate biden. he did that publicly. we saw pushing the ukrainians to push a probe if they wanted a u.s. meeting. military aid was being held awaiting the announcement for an investigation into the bidens. you have said the impeachment inquiry is justified. would you vote to support such an inquiry if you were in the house of representatives? >> i don't know. i suspect so. again, i think we need to take this incrementall...

On purpose. donald trump is a traitor. now, i know there's a lot of talk about treason. right? people on both sides, jake, have been irresponsible using that word, treason. i'm not accusing this president of treason. our founders were very specific as to what treason is. but when you look at traitor more broadly defined, this president betrayed our country again this week. it's not the first time he did it. excuse me. i don't know that we should move forward incrementally. this president needs to be impeached, jake, just based on what he, himself, has said. and republicans better get behind th...

Position, you argue there is a process to follow here. why shouldn't the process include a vote on the house floor to open an impeachment inquiry. >> i don't think that is necessary. because we know about the house rules that the speaker can do that herself. to me, again, these are a bunch of the nuances of this but what really matters to me is that people come forward and testify. you already have those texts which are very damning with high-level diplomats trying to deal with the fact about the white house pushing for this investigation while foreign aid secure is on the online. i have been ...

Spoken to the inspector general and have firsthand accounts to black up the whistle-blower. but you are saying this should go forward and impeachable but not ready to convict right now. i understand your a believer in the process. do you think it is irresponsible for senators who will be jurors to say right now they would vote to convict? is that irresponsible? >> think people will say different things. as a former prosecutor i like to look at all of the eds because you might convict on a number of accounts and not another one. but that is not the point. the point is we have some republican co...

Because if you don't come up with the 20 republican senators on the senate side, guess what. he's not impeached. and, therefore, you do set precedent going forward on, again, what he did and guess it must be okay. he got cleared by the senate. he wasn't impeached. >> washington d.c. gobbledygook. either the republican party stands up now and says we oppose this, we oppose collusion. we oppose foreign governments interfering in our election. either we stand up with one unifying voice with that right now, mark, and we don't get involved in the gobbledygook of censure or impeachment, or is it pol...