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I think it looked that way from the beginning. howard: i think the media have trouble dealing with 23 candidates because fewer characters makes for a better narrative. >> that's true, but this whole thread with president trump stems from the fact that the president knows that biden's going to be the candidate he's running against, and those labels worked for him. he did it with little marco, lyin' ted, but he runs thes aring of actually actually helping biden by defining him as the leading candidate, as the nominee. so he's really, he's winning and losing by using the labeling. howard: all rig...

Ms. daisy which robbed him of an oscar earlier in his career. he said i lose. the suggestion, richard, it's an inappropriate story line because it doesn't reflect the right things, the things that he wants to see in a movie. is that fair? >> well, green book is an interesting case it has folks in the black community split. some people thought it was a story of heroism and friendship which is why it ended up winning amongst the academy. some see it as white savior complex. there is a split how they see the movie. other argue the movie didn't talk about the green book. a green book was a book cr...

Did he finally win? he won by razor thin margins in wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan on election day. if those states go against him by razor thin margins in 2020, he'll try to discredit those results, he'll claim fraud, he and roger stone will be working on this stop the steal thing to turn the tables on democracy to suggest that the candidate who got the most votes shouldn't win. by the way, this isn't a new tactic. roger stone and his people all the way back in 2000 organized a fake riot to stop the vote counting in mild county in 2000, a bunch of washington conservative staffers flown in,...

What donald trump and rick scott are trying to spin as the narrative of what's happening in florida, that's this completely baseless claim of voter fraud, votes being made up, this sort of thing. look, as you said in the intro, rachel, trump kind of ran a version of this in 2016 including in the last presidential debate, saying he wouldn't accept the results of the election if he lost. and now i think, you know, how did he finally win? he won by razor thin margins in wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan on election day. if those states go against him by razor thin margins in 2020, he'll try to di...

An erratic president. that's not journalism. >> neil: why don't they like him? >> they don't like him because first of all, they said he was never going to win. they felt he shouldn't win. i have a lot of examples of what they said privately about him. it's not just idealogical. many conservatives don't like this president. >> neil: to this day. >> yeah. and it's cultural, it is visceral, it's is something about his street fighting-style. it's not presidential because it's never been done this way before. his supporters -- >> neil: does he create a lot of it? >> he creates some of it because o...