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Kanye cuts against every grain that we know. ed: that's why the left are upset. >> trish: it's nice to see more diversity within the conservative space. i have think he could be a real for the african-americans. ed: first lady is a shrinking violet, she doesn't give her opinion. she did this interview with abc news. it happened on her recent trip to africa. first solo trip. the images that came back, the events she held showed the people embracing her very much. a very strong ambassador for america. she does an interview with abc. think are now airing it. and it's interesting. this whole narra...

>> i don't think that's all fair. >> i've covered this president for a while. i saw it. >> i have to say to be fair i don't think i've ever seen a defendant become a shrinking violet who wants to take the stand. to very different degrees they all need to come out swinging because your life is on the line. >> yeah. >> we all know that >> the president wants you to swing. >> talking about president trump, just yesterday one of the things he was talking about is why is it he always sides with the accuser? and he said he sees himself essentially in it and that's what informs and guides his opinion...

Points. he talked about the media and he talked about politics. and i said, i could see -- it could be president trump's -- i saw president trump in brett kavanaugh today while he was giving -- i saw the bombast bombasticness. i saw the frustration. i saw the defensiveness. >> he was angry at the process. he was angry -- i don't think that's all fair. >> i've covered this president for a while. i saw it. >> i have to say to be fair i don't think i've ever seen a defendant become a shrinking violet who wants to take the stand. to very different degrees they all need to come out swinging because...

Make sure you get the job done and move on. >> she was no pushover. >> no pushover. >> she stood the up for herselves. >> right. >> inside of the walls of the nice home ellen's rank was near the bottom. >> he became condescending, controlling where i could go, who i could see. >> at home, mike made the rules and ellen obeyed them. you had a significant executive job at a big company. >> yes. >> so you are not some little shrinking violet whose home cowering under her husband's direction. >> when it came to being home and opening that door i was that shrinking violet. that's how it was. two dif...

Another keeping them honest report tonight, and another example of someone speaking for the president, trying the gas light the american public. it's certainly no secret the president trump's attorney would be rudy giuliani is no shrinking violet when it comes to putting his client's views about the investigation on public display. so here he is about 36 hours ago telling our jake tapper on state of the union that the president did not have a conversation with former fbi director james comey about limiting the investigation into his former national security adviser michael flynn. >> is there w...