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Chuck schumer shut down, the democrats suffered. the president rose in the polls and american people said we don't want the government shut down. i think it's a mistake for the president to do that again this time. he has -- he is on a good move right now. but he keeps getting in front of him sflt and calling for a shutdown that he criticized two weeks ago is not going to advance his cause. >> martha: karl rove, always good to see you, carl. >> thank you, appreciate it. >> martha: remember when the g.o.p. was ridiculed for having such a crowded presidential field there were 17 of them. remembe...

Senate side. remember, when this happened, when she was basically overrun by dreamer protesters when she was speaking in san francisco not that long ago. >> you've asked some questions. [shouting] >> you've asked some questions. you've asked some questions. [shouting] >> thank you, thank you. [let us speak. let us speak. >> you asked questions. >> martha: i think she forgot that moment, karl. the president reminded her of it the other day. that may have been some of the motivation we saw today. >> motivation might be in part that she has a caucus that is demanding action on daca and feels betr...