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Are motivated to come out. I mean, theyre gonna come out, you know, whether its negative 20, whether its a negative ten. Joining us now is jason johnson, professor of politics and journalism at morgan state university, host of the podcast, a word on slate. Com. Jason, weve heard a lot of predictions from candidates about what the impact will be for a variety of things, mother nature, that excitement of supporters. What are you watching tonight in terms of things that can have an impact . And what is a pretty small electorate . The first thing im looking for is who is gonna call and say because...

Effort to stay in power, to steal the election, which culminated in the january six attempted coup, and now sets up, in the words of legal scholar rick hassan, the most important case in our nation's history. we catherine is professor of law in political science. you can read that piece on the importance of the trial in slate.com. danya perry is a former deputy attorney general, yesterday's office southern district of new york, and they both join me now. rick, that headline really grabbed me after day, and i really like the piece. why do you think this is the most important trial in the nation...

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Closely. you are not pessimistic and skeptical about the court, typically. >> well, i am now. >> you are. now there are a lot of people who are in the same position. they weren't before, and they are now. delia, thanks for being with us, regardless of where you stand about, this we will talk to about, those because you're one of our best minds about the supreme court. she's a senior editor and legal analyst for slate.com. the past three conservative supreme court justices were nominated by a president who lost the popular vote, and they were confirmed by senators represented a minority of amer...