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Matter and second, i don't think it would be a neutral position. the constitution provides a guarantee of liberty. the court has interpreted that liberty to include the ability to make decisions related to child-bearing marriage and family. women have an equal right to liberty under the constitution, your honor, and if they're not able to make this decision, if states can take control of women's bodies and force them to endure months of pregnancy and childbirth, then they will never have equal status under the constitution. >> if states can take control of women's bodies and force them to endu...

Guarantee of liberty. the could you repeat interpreted that liberty to make decisions to child bearing, marriage, and family. women have an equal right to liberty under the constitution, your honor, and if they're not able to make this decision, if states can take control of women's bodies and force them to endure months of pregnancy and childbirth, then they will never have equal status under the constitution. >> if states with take controls of women's bodies and force them to endure months of pregnancy and force them to endure childbirth against their will, then they will never have equal st...

But the chief white house correspondent for nbc news, peter alexander, has just reported, has just confirmed, that even those on the schedule, president biden and justice stephen breyer are due to appear tomorrow together at the white house. this will be presumably the formal announcement of justin breyer's retirement. again, breyer and the president appearing together, so, not just meeting together, but doing some kind of event at the white house tomorrow. we just learned that from nbc news. joining us now, is our friend -- at slate.com. her article today about stephen breyer's were tire mean...

Choice of his successor toward somebody with those same values? >> i don't think he would ever say anything of the sort, rachel. i think you would think it was unseemly. and he often would talk about, he doesn't have any opinions on judicial nominations. i think you would describe it as asking a chicken for its recipe for chicken -- which, don't even, i don't know what it means. he would not think it was appropriate to talk deeply about those kinds of political things. but at the same time, i do think he really, really values the idea that the person who follows him we'll look at the court in ...

Can't verify. >> they spied on my campaign. it's been totally verified. just go down and get the papers. they spied on my campaign. they got caught. >> no. >> then they went much further than that and they got caught. you will see that, leslie. you know that, but you just don't want to put it on the air. >> no, as a matter of fact, i don't know that. >> tucker: as a matter of fact, we can't verify that. this is cbs news. we don't air things we can't verify. really, leslie stahl? is that true? we still remember a cbs news piece that claimed donald trump was secretly working with vladamir putin....