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[laughter] clarence thomas actually was in the seminary starting to be a priest before going off into law. and when i was a ten year old altar boy, and by far, the most solemn altar boy you have ever seen. it went through my mind, more as a performance thing because you are up there on the stage, i mean alter, and you are in a supporting role and you think maybe should i move up to the big role? >> lawrence, i feel like this is one of those things that could get real deep real fast, but i should probably leave it right there. >> it is going to get deeper in this show right before we bring on senator sheldon whitehouse to talk about seriously the supreme court. >> very good, thank you lawrence. >> thanks rachel. we begin tonight with breaking
on a real vote and it said roe and then the other side said wade, are o w versus wade on a robot. i thought it pretty fantastic. >> i get it. rachel, before you go, i don't think you can guess the one thing that clarence thomas and i have in common. and i will give you a hand, it is a career ambition that neither one of us realized. >> is it related to bribery? >> it is the last thing you would guess everyone through my mind. but clarence thomas, at least, partially gets to dress as one of these and that is a catholic priest.
>> i get it. rachel, before you go, i don't think you can guess the one thing that clarence thomas and i have in common. and i will give you a hand, it is a career ambition that neither one of us realized. >> is it related to bribery? >> it is the last thing you would guess ever went through my mind. but clarence thomas, at least, partially gets to dress as one of these and that is a catholic priest. [laughter] clarence thomas actually was in the seminary studying to be a priest before going off into law. and when i was a ten year old
altar boy, and by far, the most solemn altar boy you have ever seen. it went through my mind, more as a performance thing because you are up there on the stage, i mean alter, and you are in a supporting role and you think maybe should i move up to the big role? >> lawrence, i feel like this is one of those things that could get real deep real fast, but i should probably leave it right there. >> it is going to get deeper in this show right before we bring on senator sheldon whitehouse to talk about seriously the supreme court. >> very good, thank you lawrence. >> thanks rachel. we begin tonight with breaking news from atlanta where a grand jury will be in panel tomorrow, which is expected to decide whether to indict donald trump for his attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, the atlanta journal-constitution is
no wonder xfinity mobile is one of the fastest growing mobile services. you really shouldn't walk out the front door without it. switch today at xfinitymobile.com. so we've never had a federally indicted former president before. we are in new territory now. that means we have no idea exactly what to expect tomorrow when donald trump is scheduled to make his first court appearance in miami. we're going to have special coverage tomorrow on msnbc starting at 10:00 a.m. tomorrow evening i'll be back with you for our primetime special coverage from 8:00 to 10:00i will see you then. that's gonna do it for me for a few minutes, before i joined the last word with lawrence o'donnell as well. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. i am so excited to be able to have you come over here. and andrew weizmann is gonna be the first guest in the studio. he's actually on his way at the
that at the time for what was going on there, that was the right call. donald trump is a contender. he is not in elective office. he may become the republican nominee. betting is that he will. he may or may not get elected. at the time of the election if he is the republican nominee, even if he is elected, he could have been tried for this espionage case. he could well have other indictments pending against him. it could even be possible he would be convicted and sentenced to jail and you'd have the specter. here is where there is a similarity, rachel. you have the specter of president trump running the white house while doing time in the big house. that would be terrible. however, it is not watergate. we're not in a constitutional crisis. the fact that trump would become president if there is a fair election and he is elected, i
but say he would tell his lawyers i will agree not to run for office if you drop these charges against me or i can plead noelo contendre to some jaywalking defense, i'm not sure the justice department in this context would go along with that. i hope they wouldn't because it feeds into the rhetoric that the prosecution, the department of justice is bringing is a weaponization. it is an illegitimate prosecution just so that donald trump won't run for office again. that is a different situation than agnew, i believe. and i don't think the justice department i hope they wouldn't agree to do that. >> ron liebman former assistant district attorney for maryland, a man that prosecuted spiro agnew a man with a place in history. really good to have you here. thank you so much for talking to us about this. >> thanks rachel. pleasure to be here. >> we'll be right back. stay with us.
you up at night. if we could predict it we would love to but trust me when i say right now no one is just going to say it before they do it. >> ben collins, nbc senior reporter who covers online disinformation and extremism. good to see you. >> thanks rachel. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. products... ...designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder - that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that... ...i need a breakthrough card... like ours! with 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more... plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases! and with greater spending potential, sam can keep making smart ideas... ...a brilliant reality! the ink business premier card from chase for business. make more of what's yours. trelegy for copd. ♪birds flyin' high, you know how i feel.♪ ♪breeze driftin' on by...♪ ♪...you know how i feel.♪ you don't have to take... [coughing] ...copd sitting down. ♪it's a new dawn,...♪ ♪...it's a new day,♪
more influential than your average man on the street trump supporter saying the same kind of extremist stuff? >> yeah. there's two worlds here. not everybody that shows up tomorrow is going to be in that world of, you know, qanon and all this stuff. some people just support donald trump. that's just the way it is. >> sure. >> but there are people who think over time that there is effectively a kabol taking over the world and if somebody is going to talk it, when you read the posts, that's what happens. they say i couldn't take it anymore. i couldn't read this stuff all day long and do nothing. it only takes one guy. and predicting that rachel is inherently impossible and one of those things that should keep you up at night. if we could predict it we would love to, but trust me when i say right now no one is just going to say it before they do it. >> ben collins, nbc senior reporter who covers online disinformation and extremism. good to see you. >> thanks rachel. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. us
you on mondays anymore. how come you're here? >> you know, there is stuff going on. thought it would be good to be in the chair today. can i say i listened to your debut deja news today which i loved. >> thank you very much. >> fantastic stuff. i had actually read something a little while ago. very brief about that episode. and loved it. anyway people should check it out. >> thank you very much first of all. very kind of you to say. i should credit you actually because it was an interview with a journalist and historian on your podcast which in part got isaac and i really interested in that topic. it is what put it on the table for us to consider as one of our episodes >> i love that. >> so you were part of the inspiration for doing that whole story. >> great. thank you, rachel. >> thanks, chris. much appreciate it. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. very happy to have you here. as chris mentioned, we do have a new podcast that just launched the first episode today called "rachel maddow presents deja news" the whole idea of the