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On trump. Im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. The debate will be hosted by bret baier and Martha Maccallum. I spoke to the anchor of the story from new york. Martha maccallum, welcome. Hi, howie, good to be with you. Howie i havent seen a build up like this for a first debate at the beginning of a campaign since that 2015 Fox Debate With Political Newcomer donald trump. I turned to the other channels i see fox debate. What are people saying . Why do you think that is . I think theres a lot of enthusiasm. I think people are much more politically engaged and probably since that 2015 debate an...

Deplorables. >> as an insult listless develops doesn't really rate for me. it's clear to me what he meant. he's trying to say literally trump shouldn't define whether you're a loyal republican or a loyal conservative, but it seems like one of those things now that's just going to enter and this is a snake bit campaign, howie. it's hard to think of one good news cycle that desantis campaign has had in the last six months. there's some state level endorsements besides that its just been bad news story after bad break after bad news story. howie: there have been missteps , the debate about slaver...