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prepaid -- those credit cards for food that are going to the migrants. >> we are not giving people american express cards. we found that the food delivery service that we set up during the emergency we could find a better way to do it. >> steve: why are the migrants getting a better deal than the homeless of new york? that's what people have scratching their heads about. meanwhile, southern california still in the grip of dangerous atmospheric river triggering 500 mud slides leaving at least nine people dead as they pick up the pieces in has enda li heights. >> lawrence: remember, mo...

He's happy with it, gets the tv time, and part of the strategy. that's what he wants. >> he'll pay the price at the ballot box next year. >> i get a feeling we'll see puerto rico's and mitch mcconnell's overly flattering words used -- >> absolutely. that montage at the white house today with all ofs smiling faces and the back slapping, the hand holding over taxes, yeah. that's good commercial. that's going to play into a broader narrative about the party and its lack of interest to the typical american voter, but to your point, ruth, about those folks who are on s.n.a.p. and c.h.i.p. programs,...

>> moving on. taxpayers already pay for people to collect food stamps or snap cards. now we may end up paying to make sure they're using food stamps to make healthy food choices. charles payne from the "fox business" network is here. what do you mean they're doing that? >> here is the thing, 47 million americans get food stamps and overwhelmingly they misuse them instead of buying fresh fruits and?ñ?ñ?ñ?ñ? vegetable, they bus and snickers. >> what's wrongkñ?ñ?ñ?ñ?ñ? with? nothing, i guess. but some people say maybe we can help them out because perhaps people don't know the difference....

Trenton, i am selling food stamps for $60 cash. >> that's a $100 ebt card that they're selling for $60. you got to figure one of two things. either the person really does need it, but they're hooked on drugs or something like that, so they're going to sell their food card to buy drugs, or they've gotten food stamps and snap cards even though they don't need it. and that's the problem. we want to give it to people who need it. but if you get and you don't need it, that's just not good. >> just by shear numbers alone, certainly we don't want americans hungry. we don't want hunger. this was an ef...

Discouraged. what does that say about our society? let alone our economy? those are people not paying taxes and people who are contributing to the growth in government funding because the other thing that's happening is costs over programs like food stamps is exploding. disability roles, exploding. so this is not something, you know, keeping people out of the work force is not contributing to the growth of the country which would contribute to more jobs. and what he does, they keep taking their eye off the ball talking about the issue of jobs. but mostly, you know, getting involved in gridlock...