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New york. >> whatever. >> i see it all the time. >> they're using their ebt card, getting cash and buying weed with it. >> even though i'm not necessarily against the legalization of marijuana, i never did pot. i don't understand it. i don't -- i understand medical reasons, all that. i'm uncomfortable with the whole thing. and even yesterday when we were talking about, what were we talking about? >> legalizing -- >> anyway, this whole pot experiment, to me, is just a little bit beyond the pale. the guy here, just because you can take advantage of a system doesn't mean you should. and i wonder ...

And why are they going to learn? they'll be so focused on wanting to hide that they're not going to speak up in class or stand out and they're going to shri . shrivel. we know with brains that are developing they need the nutrition just to learn, be present, and be able to be most effective in a classroom. all of that together is going to make them shirk away from school. >> tom, it is also about the money, isn't it. i mean, you can't cut $8 billion out of the s.n.a.p. program and expect that it's going to be everything okay in our school systems. >> no. i mean, there are some programs here --...

And the values in which many americans have been brought up on. the other thing that stuck was the thing how all women need equal wage. and something that definitely needs to be talked about. of course my passion in stopping hunger is something that is important to me. >> you've talked about about the cuts in the s.n.a.p. program. you worked as a witness to hunger. you hoped you would get an invitation to address congress as they were considering these s.n.a.p. benefit reductions. so talk to me about what it meant for you to be there, you know to be listening instead of speaking. >> well, it w...

May be getting through crop insurance subsidies that they, themselves, voted into law. joining me now is chef tom colicchio. a board member of food policy action. it's always great to talk to you, tom. >> chris, how are you doing? >> food policy action, you guys have been doing great work on the farm bill. it looks like this is going to be the farm bill we get. what does tom colicchio say about this bill? >> it's a terrible bill as far as i'm concerned. hunger advocates i work closely with are really concerned about this. i would be somewhat disingenuous if i didn't point out there's good thin...

May be getting through crop insurance subsidies that they, themselves, voted into law. joining me now is chef tom colicchio. a board member of food policy action. it's always great to talk to you, tom. >> chris, how are you doing? >> food policy action, you guys have been doing great work on the farm bill. it looks like this is going to be the farm bill we get. what does tom colicchio say about this bill? >> it's a terrible bill as far as i'm concerned. hunger advocates i work closely with are really concerned about this. i would be somewhat disingenuous if i didn't point out there's good thin...