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Your start treaty, fine. but then you have to get behind "don't ask, don't tell." and they put it on the floor and it fails. so he and obama talk and reed said i think i could get the votes, i'll put it back up. obama didn't think he could get it done. and reed said i'll roll up the dice and hangs up and puts it on the floor and passed it with 63 votes. and i think we make an argument in the book, if you don't repeal "don't ask, don't tell," then you don't get the marriage equality ruling because repealing it allowed the administration to then say, well we're no longer going to defend the defe...

Sort of this bastion of the most forward-thinking and progressive when it comes to lgbtq issues. and it was actually -- he had to -- he was not initially prioritized repealing don't ask, don't tell. who got in his ear? >> in some ways, it was harry reid but he didn't necessarily get in his ear. he just pushed it forward. and now to be clear, the president by the end of 2010 very much wanted "don't ask, don't tell" to be repealed. that is the key question. the question is whether or not there was time in the lame duck to dedicate to it because once the tea party is in, you won't get there throu...

We have reed hopkins from the national weather center. he's up by you in wilmington, reed, let's talk about what's coming our way in north myrtle beach. i'm looking at the radar and it's showing those yellow bands showing light precipitation. it's just not here yet. >> oh, yes, we had the storm moving along what looks like the eye. it's got very, very large and we've had significant rain up in our area in southeast south carolina. we've had flash flood issued for the last several hours. and on the backside is the big swath of rain that's going to catch the rest of the area and then also move a...

Court knows any conduct can arguably fit into that statute or a host of other instruction-type federal statutes. >> so where's that fine line when we're talking about the president of the united states? >> the fine line is if you are in a camp thabls that the president can obstruct justice if he's doing so for a corrupt purpose then it still has to be that corrupt purpose. >> you have to prove that. >> exactly. you have to prove what was in the president's mind. did he do this because -- maybe there's a good reason. did he truly and honestly believe there's no there there. the easier case woul...

>> so reed the president has repeatedly called this a witch hunt. is this his way of downplaying the whole thing to voters or does the president truly think there's a deep state out to get him? >> well, the president is well trafficked in conspiracy theories, you mentioned earlier his crazy notation that president obama was not born in the u.s., which of course was false. he has never even apologized or gone back on that particular word. a lot of this is an effort to de la legitimate mize this investigation even before the real heat sets in, whether it's questioning the special counsel robert ...