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2021, is if democrats are running against someone that is not donald trump, you probably can't win by running against donald trump. they are able to distinguish between the two. and these voters talked about youngkin as the type of guy they'd see on their soccer field, a soccer dad. intelligent, well informed. i mean, all of these things that these biden voters didn't think about trump, they were able to distinguish between the two so they didn't buy the connection. >> do you think democrats from what you learned -- do you think democrats have time to correct course? have a chance of not losing as significantly as some fear in 2022? >> oh, for sure. and i think there are a lot of democrats talking about this in the right way. i mean, i -- i highlight one that i -- that i work with in ohio. tim ryan. who is really hammering on the global supply chain issues. talking about some of the problems that we've brought on ourselves by letting manufacturing go overseas. getting tough on china. bringing manufacturing back. talking about the value of hard work. i also think time for a lot of these things to improve so we just got to -- we just got to, you know, improve things and
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know. not a good candidate's in 2008. this is a different case. >> and elizabeth warren will say she's most suited to take on donald trump in the a town hall tomorrow night. what's the most important message tore her to drive home? >> quickly, as ron said, 40% of the electorate could be african-american. coming into an area, there up in memphis tennessee coming down into mississippi tomorrow and heading to alabama tuesday. she's appealing directly to those african-american voters and those older voters, those moms, those soccer moms and even older democrats as well she's reaching out to, you know, with her message. she'll be delivering that here in a very interesting place here in jackson, mississippi. a place you don't see presidential candidates come often but they'll be here tomorrow night. >> did you just call soccer moms older votevoters? because i'm a soccer mom. >> well i'm a soccer dad. throw that into the mix.
makes me break my cool like that. >> i think you are doing okay if that is all you have done. the problem is if you take a punch at the guy sitting next to you in the stands. if you start burning a mattress or flipping a the police car. sports are in our dna. there is something that taps us emotionally it's exhilarate, entertaining. there are highs and there are lows. and think it encapsulates the human spirit. when you get to fandom you are going to see people as happy as can be and as sad and frustrated as can be. none of that is expect order unusual. >> how much of that is learned from somebody's parents. we hear of the horrific stories of the hockey dad or the soccer dad who had to be thrown out. we see it all over. how much of this the picked up from parents or how much is kids picking it up when they go to a stadium. >> people always ask me who are the worst fans? and to me there is a little bit