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The Senate Foreign Relations Committee will come to order. Welcome everyone, good morning. We will have senators participating both live and virtually. Since it is difficul the Senate Foreign Relations Committee will come to order. We will have senators participating live then virtually as a result of that its difficult to determine to go in ty, seniority and we both come three witnesses the assistant secretary of state and the bureau official for the European Eurasian Affairs and Principal Deputy assistant for western hemisphere fears. We appreciate you being here. We will be talking about ch...

That a deeply held believe that everybody almost everybody uses different kinds of tricks and manipulation studio and you kind of subvert the house and take expression of political will and based on lies democracy is i do it in certain the way they are relying on laws and regulations to ensure that its self interest authoritarian nations maybe doing that and more in crew there are ways but ultimately i think the conclusion of your book is that everybody doesnt. No really i mean i dont think thats the conclusion theres a lot of countries on in the book which dont really do it or at least do it ...

The committee on Foreign Affairs will come to other to order. That objection the chair is authorized to declare a recess for the committee of any point and all members will have five days to submit statements, extraneous materials. To insert something to the record please help your staff email the previously circulated address or Contact Committee staff. As a reminder to members staff and other physically present in this room for guidance on the office of attending physician masks must be worn at all times to during todays proceedings except when a member or witness is speaking. Please also sa...

Instrument its into all of many places its s. Dave i think totally wrong about that tell me a little bit more because i dont really see why democracy would be a stick of the west so tell me a little bit more about where that perception comes from well he your book is not very flattering to you after it terry ends but i think you ultimately confirmed that deeply have believed that everybody almost everybody uses different kinds of tricks and manipulation studio and you kind of center in the house and take expression of political will and based on his democracies i doing it in certain the way th...

Whatsoever they seem to be reasonably stable countries that are stuck in between these 2 extremes so. It would be i think we should expect countries like russia to look roughly the same intensity in 20 years time and its going to take quite a lot to shift russia even to a complete or a terran state that doesnt hold elections rule or to a much more Democratic State where we could genuinely talk about some of the tweets and losing power i was writing of aides to the soviet union and i remember very vividly this transition from infuse the absent any and if you see as and for democracy to see a lo...