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Least one submarine that can launch missiles, that is a major advancement for north korea, because solid fuel permits them to fire without very much morning, that makes it a real threat to the u.s. that solid fuel missile looks like it came from china. >> molly: speaking of china, some breaking news this morning. our pentagon report or confirming that the chinese have conducted some missile tests of their own. they launched these mockup targets designed to look at the american system. what can we make of these recent tests? >> i think what it shows, because they are targeting thad, it shows th...

This is like the 14th test, they are -- they're not just testing more, they're testing at a faster pace, if you think sanctions are going to solve this, you're deluding yourself. there's a giant disconnect between their ability to quickly advance their capabilities versus our ability to enforce sanctions that would even matter. they're clearly winning that race. doing more of the same ain't going to change the fundamental problem. >> and there has been progress in advancements. that's exactly what dianne feinstein was talking about today, when asked about north korea's missile. >> i'm convince...

Icbm, to put solid fuel to have an interesting launch device, and to have a trajectory which as of the latest analysis would enable it to go about 6,000 mimes and maybe even hit as far east as chicago. we can't have that. >> as far east as chicago, feinstein saying ominous words, fred. you can see whether they are democrats or republicans taking this north korea threat very seriously now. >> and then what's your reaction to what senator feinstein was talking about? her concerns reaching as far east as chicago? what are your concerns about north korea's capabilities? >> i certainly share her co...

Look, north korea, since '09, has pulled itself out of any -- it may have been a charade in terms of the protocols for nuke development. they have been able to get the technology that gordon described from pakistan, from iran, others, to achieve this capability. what we saw with the launch looks like probably solid fuel, which is denser, which gives you more thrust, and gives you more altitude, which is exactly what they achieved. and the additional piece, was a reentry vehicle. they brought this back down. they put things in space before, that's it. they've never been able to take ate from ex...

Threatened that having an icbm capable of reaching the coast of the united states has been the goal of their weapons program. so pyongyang is going to be watching this u.s. test very closely. it's been the pacing of the recent north korean test that's been some cause for urgency. and apparent successes. they're also showing improving technology. they're using solid fuel, mobile launchers. that means missiles can be fired with little warning. so that means there's a more limited chance of being able to shoot it down. this latest test was a new ballistic missile using a precision-guidance system...