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And in this case all we have is perhaps there was somebody lying. that's "the new york times." that's not a court record. >> here's where i think the american people are trying to get our heads wrapped around this. you can do a bunch of stuff as president. you have a lot of authority. but you can't do it with a corrupt motive. the problem is, it's becoming hard to figure out what is the innocent motive for all this stuff. that's the problem. >> firing comey, the case was made by the democrats. everybody in washington d.c. was anti-comey until president trump fired him. it was started by harry ...

We don't know of any crime in this case. in terms of the hearsay. i think it's wishful thinking that the shoe is about to fall. obstruction, it really is tampering with the evidence or intim dating a witness, a juror. or outright lying to them to change the outcome, in this case, all we have is, perhaps there was somebody lying. but that's the new york times, that's not a court record. >> here's where i think the american people are trying to get their heads wrapped around this. you can do a bunch of stuff as president, you can't do it with a corrupt motive. it's becoming hard to figure out wh...

Explanation with this and i'm struggling with it. >> this is a president who talks in superlatives. it doesn't mean he acts in superlatives whether it's foreign policy, domestic policy or recounting what he did, his conduct of the american economy. he is going to talk big. that doesn't necessarily mean that he reflects big. i think the other thing that is going on here is that people in the white house clearly are kept out of the loop on certain things. i don't believe that sara huckabee sanders went on television yesterday and deliberately lied when she said that the president believed that d...

He has some solutions. >> the truth, you know, you think about it, it's not just inconsequential stuff. if you're driving one way on a road you expect the guy driving the opposite way to stay in his lane. that's the truth. it's kind of a exact you have. and when people begin lying, things become very untenable very quickly. >> but this is the lowest levels we've seen for some time. and then when it came to trust in public figures i'm told it's the lowest we've had now since richard nixon at the height of watergate. so obviously we're a very cynical people. but it's extended to young people who...

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