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But no one was with him in a room to give contemporaneous evidence about the phone cal between donald trump and mik pence was. so, there might be something very interesting >> it might be, you know assuming that he tells the truth, i'll be very telling. i'm sure he knows that peopl were saying outside the capital, hang mike pence. he'll be asked, how did yo feel about that? did you hear that they wer doing that so, it'll be very compelling testimony. >> is there any, would joc smith and all be concerned about finding willis and georgia, going ahead with he case they relate to each other, they'...

Something that he knows very well which is what revenge i all about, donald trump will weaponize the department o justice and he will use that t slow the case down on top of that, he will use it regardless of how the result o that case comes out. he will then use it to try t have the judge recused he will try to compound is nonsensical request to have th case removed to someplace else someplace that he seems to b more favorable i certainly hope that they don't fall into that trap, tha is exactly what donald i thinking right now >> you know michael, i want to take a turn to something a little b...

A claim order, make a motion for a violation of his first amendment constitutional rights he will then use it to try t have judge merchan recused and then tried to compound nonsensical request to have th case moved to someplace else someplace that he deems to b more favorable >> to talk all about this an more, i want to bring into m bryant, bloomberg opinio senior executive editor who' also an msnbc political an lure tim it's good to talk to you about this stuff so let's star there right? and the former president i doing the stuff anyway trying to get it, movie want today moved to staten islan...

Men had. and finally stepping attacks t the district attorney and th judge, just hours later. sources familiar with th matter told nbc, judge merchan and his family have sinc received dozens of threats the court is increasin security for them. ex fixer, michael cohen, warning today, trump is hoping to bait the judge into issuing a gag order. >> the first thing donald will do, is have his counsel file for a claim, or make a motion, for a violation of his first amendment constitutional rights he will then use it to try t have judge merchan recused, an then try to compound his nonsensical request...

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