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things. they'll be hacked by north korea and other bad actors and he said, i would have told them, sony, not to get into a pattern where you're intimidated by these criminal attacks. >> we should not have dictators from somewhere censuring what we have here in the united states. another headline. >> but basically what he did is say, sony, what you created now is a slippery loep. when do you stop? this is the basic of our freedom of speech making sure we have creative license and not criticized by those abroad. this is one way for him to say, i too, read the e-mails about what you said about me. this is on you. >> let's bring on chuck todd, moderator of "meet the press." it seems like the president has gotten himself into this conversation. was sony right? the president jumps in and says, no, kids out in hollywood, i'm a grownup. you know what, you made a mistake. you did. you buckled. you appeased. very strong statement. you should have talked to me. >> incredibly strong. i mean, that -- look, that whole

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