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Coverage people. see that people are not necessarily pain attention. who was the last president -- >> certainly not mike pence. >> certainly not. not even joe biden when he was the vice president. maybe detaining is the last vice president that we knew what they did every day. i do think that. i also think it's important that the folks that are working for the vice presidents, as someone who has been in that position, i'm like, monday morning quarterbacking now. it's also important to make sure that you're doing your due diligence to elevate the work that she is doing, making sure they are com...

Rich greenwich connecticut republicans who have no affinity for guns, especially not assault rifles. is it the combination of republicans that are beholden to the nra, and republicans who are rich and what their taxes really low, or single issue republicans who really just care about limiting a woman's right to choose, is it when you combined that trifecta the nra gets their way, because those other republicans who care about taxes and abortion, they're not pain attention? >> yeah, listen, i'll be honest with you stephanie, i don't know that i completely understand with the answer to that ques...

And simple, her confirmation is just the forum for airing it. >> that's very true, the last thing i would say, this is sort of a superficial point, there are lots of people who are brilliant and incredible, and are particularly good on tv, and are people who are great talking to who i wouldn't put on the supreme court, but she is shockingly and remarkably gutted that. as someone who puts people on tv for a living, that i instruct, i knew about her, i know about her incredible reputation, all the parts of her cv beforehand. just seeing her like, wow she's really good at that, she's really a for...