Layer. you've got afghan special forces commandos who are kind of the first line of defense afterwards for the u.s., and then you've got the u.s. anyone who says that any american can get in here is, you know -- yeah, i mean, technically, it's possible, but it's extremely difficult and it is dangerous. >> clarissa ward there still in kabul after she said about 10, 11 hours there. thank you again for amazing reporting. i want to bring our panel back in. we also have joining the panel, chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins. kaitlan, to you. even with the optics, the tone jeff already m...