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Speaking about underrepresented people and people feel inspired. trump's celebrity is built on division, us versus them, good versus bad, winners versus losers. she didn't do that. felt like relief. >> not everyone. donald trump appealed to folks who were angry, didn't want to be inspired but wanted somebody to express their anger. would it be a gift to republicans for someone like oprah to run or scary? >> take the point this isn't a good trend in our politics but mock nothing anymore. if hillary clinton could give a speech half as good, probably be president. >> why compare the two? hillary ...

Heaven's sakes and go after the people you suspect. do make the haystack so big hads harder to find the needle. if you think the needle is in there go find the magnets and pull it out of there. >> governor mike huckabee, thank you so much for being with us. joining me is dr. sheb ban i can't say gorka. he's an expert on terrorism and irregular warfare. you heard the president you believe his strategy is a winning one? >> i didn't hear a strategy. i heard 7 minutes of reheated leftovers, and then the rest of his speech half of the speech was about yuf we don't want to do such as declare war aga...

President. the place where i still fall a little short and i have to say i've read the speech half a dozen times, i listened also to the white house staff who were briefing us and then also your prior guests. i still don't fully understand what they mean and when they talk about not allowing the government to have the custodial capacity of the bulk metadata but yet still want to have the ability to search it and that if it won't sit with third parties, it could sit somewhere else. what are they talking about? >> i didn't fully understand the third option that he was describing somewhere that i...

Himself. he shouldn't be the chief justice. >> what he doesn't have a right to do as president of the united states is rebuke the supreme court when he doesn't have his facts right. let me say, i think he has a good point. i think the political theater has become something we view all the time that we shouldn't. the state of the union address you had barack obama up there it was extremely partisan as it always is. he's giving the speech half of the room is standing giving him applause the other half somber expressions the supreme court justices have to sit in their black robes not say a word d...

Himself. he shouldn't be the chief justice. >> what he doesn't have a right to do as president of the united states is rebuke the supreme court when he doesn't have his facts right. let me say, i think he has a good point. i think the political theater has become something we view all the time that we shouldn't. the state of the union address you had barack obama up there it was extremely partisan as it always is. he's giving the speech half of the room is standing giving him applause the other half somber expressions the supreme court justices have to sit in their black robes not say a word d...