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So many people behind. the economy wasn't working for working people. >> if you look at the similarities you have two big spending presidents that felt they could just apply their world view and make peoples lives better whether it was standarding wars i war -- starts in the middle east or having massive spending programs. that made peoples lives worse. it made it harder to start a business and for a lot of people dropout of the work force entirely. you had employment numbers going up. you had a huge part of the labor force that wasn't participating at all. >> that's what is changing now. they...

Involved. the states. obviously, this is an issue both parties agree on here. they are in a tough spot. >> it's irony here because when this president came in, there was a palpable sense on the democratic side there could be maybe some progress on a big shovel ready infrastructure project because he sold himself as a populist. and republicans actually were worried that he might work around them and cut a deal. instead he went the more traditional route of tax cuts which turbo charged the debt and deficits and now democrats are skeptical of his plan. they think it's another way of shoveling mon...

And he said they had forwarded recommendations to the administration about offsets that came out of mandatory spending programs. looking at things like entitlements. they are going to want that money paid for if there's going to be a discussion of broader infrastructure. >> bret: speaker of the house is a former vice presidential nominee who campaigned in front of the national debt clock. >> you heard john thune say something really different than what the president is talking about. >> that seemed odd. at this deal put forth is one that's difficult for democrats to fight. you get everything y...

And he just sort of threw dianne feinstein under the bus. >> don't tweet. you have a lot of momentum from yesterday. it's actually substantive issues that are dealing with immigration, that are dealing ultimately with spending programs, the democrats have held back agreement on because they're waiting to use daca as leverage. you have all of that momentum, positive stuff, keep the story on productive things that washington can do, in governing the united states. >> shepard: john roberts tried to get to the bottom of are you going to cooperate. john, it was forthright, honest, straight forward ...

The whole infrastructure discussion. >> many smart people think we're 20 years behind on the power grid. we have been promised for a long time wii by politicians, not just on that, on the airports, the roads, the bridges, on the schools. i read a heartbreaking story, in classes, didn't have heaters in some classes. >> gary. >> let me-- it's about time that something gets done. politicians need to get onto these essential things for the future growth of in country today. >> but, gary, let's not get crazy here. at the end of the day, we have to watch our pennies and cents and can't turn it into ...