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>> i'll tell you as somebody of indian ancestry, it was a different situation versus a small armed force. never more than 500 brits in india any time. the afghans have never been quelled by anybody, the russians, americans, brits, alexander the great, has never ever great. >> correct. i agree. we're not looking to make jefferson yan democracy or anything elimination but put training wheels to continue to operate and not fail. they had a bad week, entire company annihilated on tuesday. >> is there a danger this becomes the ability for the administration to now put this aside and put it in a lit...

You've got to err on the side of growth because you're not going to solve the debt problem and definitely not going to be able to put the people back to work like i know the president wants to do. julie: the congressional budget office projects the federal debt will grow by $10 trillion if we don't meet that 4.5% increase in our economy in ten years with these tax cuts. >> well, they're assuming that you're going to continue to grow -- or, excuse me, you're going to continue to spend without any reductions anywhere, and i think we all know that's unrealistic. so i think congress needs to be di...

Dessert without paying for it. so in my state, when i cut taxes, which i believe in -- i think low taxes are critical -- we didn't dynamically score. >> no, you cut a lot of stuff on the spending side. >> no, that's not what we did. when we ran sur pluses, we had three choices. we could spend it, two, we could save it, or we could give it back. so it's an interesting thing what we did. >> here's my question here is that people talk about deficits like they ce about them. but my theory is that n one actually does care about them. >> well, i do. >> no, but no one's behavior in washington suggest...

Financed tax cut. george bush. we're going to get a big deficit, financed tax cut. at the same time republicans are saying they care about balanced budgets, but the proof is in the pudding. the deficits go up under republican presidents. why not just be honest about what they're doing? >> i think they believe in this idea of dynamic scoring, and i've warned them about it. you know, i say if you dynamically score taxes, then you're going to have democrats dynamically score spending on domestic programs, so it's dangerous. i do believe there is a legitimate amount of dynamic scoring, but if you ...

Anchor that is tethered to the republican party. you have divisions that have not been dealt with that is the party's position on this, that, or the other thing. so you have these coming together, and for a lot of those conservatives, the repeal part was the most important part. the fact that they didn't take that into account in getting behind the ryan bill really set this in motion long before you got to the friday -- >> what act when you're ripping on the freedom caucus on one side and the democrats on one side. >> the dems are a separate piece. i think first he has to reconcile himself wit...