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Talking about whether or not kislyak is an intelligence officer. my personal assessment is, during the course of my career i've rarely seen a case where you have an ambassador who's a formal staff offer of the russian intelligence services. that does not mean that he's not the eyes and ears of vladimir putin on the ground in washington. any diplomat, whether it's russian or western diplomat, part of their job is the collection of information, just like an intelligence officer. of course, an intelligence officer talks to different people and does it under different circumstances. i don't think ...

Still even after we got rid of 35 of them. so to suggest he is somehow separate or oblivious to that is a bit much. >> so this is james clapper, who is saying two things, biggest spy operation in the united states, probably find that easy to believe and sergey kislyak said on top of that organization. people in washington seem to think that's the case, sergey kislyak was a spy master. >> well, i certainly think when you call him a spy master in his role as ambassador, this is a very detail oriented man. he's going to be briefed on what is going on in his embassy. that includes intelligence wor...

Was very clever and it was clever for the consumption of the russian people. putin is a kgb spy master. he is a former director of russian intelligence. when he does things with a wink and a nod, well, we didn't do it, but maybe some russian patriots did it. that was said before. that was done before when they hacked georgia, the nation of georgia and seized up all of their national internet for their leadership. he does these things because everyone in russia knows he's a spy master. it's like sitting, you know, michael flynn to the right hand of you at a dinner and no one knows why he's ther...

I think putin's statement today was very clever and it was clever for the consumption of the russian people. putin is a kgb spy master. he is a former director of russian intelligence. when he does things with a wink and a nod, well, we didn't do it, but maybe some russian patriots did it. that was said before. that was done before when they hacked hi hacked georgia, the nation of georgia and seized up all of their national internet for their leadership. he does these things because everyone in russia knows he's a spy master. it's like sitting, you know, michael flynn to the right hand of you ...

Jared might have said we could keep the line communication open but didn't suggest using the secure information facilities. ambassad ambassador kislyak is the russian spy master in the united states. could he have fed it knowing it was false to destabilize us, absolutely. the tip sent to the reporter at "the washington post," via anonymous letter supposedly from somebody within the transition. we have to verify the facts so we know what happens -- >> no one has come out and refuted it. people said it's not a big deal. no one said it didn't happen at this point. >> naveeds, who is screwed here,...