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Traffickers and human criminals want very badly. this would be so easy to do. plenty to work through auto capitol hill. that is where we find nbc congressional reporter mike viqueira joining us live. how is the work going to make a deal? >> in about an hour and a half's time, we expect some staffers from the senate offices and the house leadership offices to head up to the white house compound, the eisenhower executive office building. that meeting is he set to begin at 11:00 with they're said to be continuing negotiations. not a lot of optimism that anybody on a staff level is going to have t...

Solution to the shutdown. if what you want is to roop open the government because the democrats who were in the meeting and the president did not get any closer to finding a solution in the middle, a compromise, the president holding fast to his demands for the walls and democrats saying they're not going to give it to him. so we are kind of where we were before the meeting. the good news is that the parties are having these discussions. at least now they're at the table trying to figure things out. they're talking about it on the staff level, but it is unclear who is going to give what and wh...

Gives you cause to be optimistic? close to two-hour meeting which represented to some people a good best chance for something. one of the meetings where something happens and then everybody discusses it and maybe some result comes out later? >> reporter: well, i think what leader mcconnell is saying if there's a task sent out for representatives from the president and congressional leadership to be working through the weekend there's some optimism there but i was also struck by chuck schumer saying the president is prepared to keep a shutdown in place, leader schumer said possibly for months a...

Talks happening on a staff level. the state of play now is essentially the president who has dug in his own possession, demanding the $5 billion for the border wall. one of his allies representative mark meadows of the house freedom caucus saying just yesterday to cnn that the democrats are really misreading this situation and the president, that he is not going to give up on that figure. the democrats have offered $1.3 billion. he says that's not even close. and you see the president trying to blame the democrats in a series of tweets calling the incoming house speaker nancy pelosi simply nan...

Or there, are we really at an impasse here? >> there are few people here in the hallways. we expect to see the leadership. we don't really expect to see many lawmakers because the senate officially will be open at 4:00 in the afternoon. but there is nothing on the schedule here in terms of votes. the negotiations that are taking place are really on a staff level. behind the scenes here, and really no sign that there's going to be a lot of folks returning. so it is at a stalemate here because what you have, the president has dug in, talking about the $5 billion for the border wall. he's trying ...