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Nature of the news cycle with this president. >> you remember, this is the first time she danced around it. remember she told people to go out and buy ivanka trump products when people were boycotting them and getting rid of them. >> another example of how things are normal. you're using the old rules where things had a degree of decor up and decency we're out of that zip is code. >> this is what the president released or the white house released. kellyanne conway did not advocate for or against the election of any particular candidate. she simply addressed the president's obvious position tha...

President wants to have doug jones- not doug jones in that seat republicans in the seat. yes to further the agenda. she explicitly used her position to promote the gop candidate. which by the way every white house staffer at a junior level gets the briefing. when i was a staffer it was explicit that i was going to attend the republican national sfrengs in new york in 2004 i had to take days off, go without pay. there is no mixing and mingling that you're federal position with politics. and that's very clear. it's always clear. >> yeah, at the same time there is a little bt of poor recollection...

That's also a possibility. >> if you're a staffer it is, though. i worked in the white house staff during investigations. it can be a scary place when an investigation like this picks up steam and the fbi gets involved. >> that's exactly right. that's why this, you know, who knows how long this is going to go on. but, the other issue here is, for hillary clinton to go out, as she did, in recent days and say, this is politics. this is dirty politics. they're trying to smear me in an unfair way that dog will not hunt, at all. you have got barack obama's government now investigating her and looki...