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Globe. joining me now is said journalist. contributing opinion writer to the "new york times." that was a pretty powerful op-ed that you wrote. and i thought it was interesting in this idea of the biggest criticism of the bush years was that he viewed everything as good versus evil. it's the winners and losers job seem concerned about. explain some more. >> it's funny to feel know stall jik, isn't it? and there's a nihilistic viewpoint that's quite familiar to me coming from russia, it's familiar to hundred garns, under

Disclosing details from it or even eluding to the details. in an e-mail to staff last night, the editor and chief defended the move writing this, publishing this document was not an easy or simple call, publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017. full disclosure, nbc universal, which is the parent company of nbc and msnbc is an investor in buzzfeed. it's important to note that our news operations are independent of each other. ben smith joins me now. ben, welcome, sir. >> thanks for having me on, chuck. >> okay. i want you to explain this sentence, publishing this...

Said the first day she put her kids in the limousine with armed men she thought, what have i done? and this is a family that people are close to them say have, in fact, thrived. if you want to see what this is about, go to pete sousa and the white house instagram and see those sort of private moments that are suddenly not so private where he has caught the first family or the caught the president and first lady in an embrace or just a laugh, and you can't fake that. you can't make that up. i was waiting for that moment. i'm not surprised that all that happened and people said he was feelings n...