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And in the senate right now, there are so many people that want to move forward, and that is because we are in the middle of a surge in this pandemic. we need to bring down the costs of pharmaceuticals, something we have never done, and it is more than over time to do it. something the republicans have voted against consistently. it is time to actually bring down the costs of child care and make it easier for people to go back to work. that's what build back better is about. that's what we are in the midst of a debate. and i would note that neither of these two senators have come away from the...

Contempt. congress grilling the head of instagram, after internal documents show the social media platform can harm the mental health of young women, especially teenage girls. and testimony as a manslaughter trial begins in minnesota for a former police officer who shot and killed dahntay wright during a traffic spot, claiming she accidently mistook her gun for her taser. i want to bring in now former gop congressman charlie dent and cnn's senior analyst -- good evening to both of you. elly, now mark meadows is sooning the committee. is he afraid of trump or is this a stalling tactic? >> it's ...

We know the donald trump who sits before folks. he has a tendency to lie, both in public and sometimes under oath as well. we'll see what comes of this. but it isn't a surprise, as you said, that they want to talk to the head of the trump organization. >> let's shift to another investigation to which trump is central, a different issue, the january 6th investigation. we have new detail about what trump's former chief of staff mark meadows turned over to the committee. the materials we are told include texts from meadows about exactly what the then president was doing during the deadly riot up ...

They were forced to delay another deposition this weekend by former trump doj official jeffrey clark for medical reasons. clark says he will plead the fifth as will john eastman, a former trump attorney who was central to efforts to overturn the election. joining us now nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, charlie psychs editor at large at the bulwark, and "politico" national correspondent betsy woodruff spawn. garrett, several depositions postponed by the house select committee, delaying tactic? i mean, what does engaging mean? at least talking rather than saying i'm not ...

This. i just want to get that video up because it was relating to what you were talking about. >> absolutely. jeffrey clark is to my mind neck and neck with another figure we learned more about recently, john eastman, who was an outside lawyer, who engaged in really abhorrent conduct to try to turn the election to donald trump. these invocations of privilege as far as i can tell are completely silly. there are other cases in which donald trump has asserted privilege which don't carry a lot of weight and a win the has been able to -- steve bannon has been able to argue or has argued that becaus...