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Am concerned about. the affirmative action case, who brought the case? it's not -- it's these organizations that were sort of designed in a lab to try to take affirmative action down. and in the student loan case, it's not like students. it's states that are saying they don't like the idea of helping, of giving to students in deep debt what we gave to banks. where -- the standing question is weird in both of these for me. >> that's exactly right, joy. i think a lot of what the majority wrote about the standing issues with regard to the state of texas who was one of the litigants here is going ...

Fitten, who is not even a lawyer, certainly not an expert in presidential records act, when any other sober, capable lawyer who is steeped in those facts is telling him otherwise. that's not a legal defense. you can't rely on unreasonable advice. >> let me ask you this question about the january 6th piece of this. we just had -- well, let me ask you the january 6th piece. would you expect a january 6th case to also be brought at the same time, and could they be brought at the same time in theory? >> yes, the select committee even based on the evidentiary record we developed recommended crimina...

Keep them for whatever reason. the person he was listening to instead of his lawyer who was saying you have to give it back, is a guy who is not a lawyer, even though the organization he runs is called judicial watch. he took advice from him and a range of others who told him he could legally keep the documents and should fight the justice department. trump would often cite him to others, and he told some of trump's lawyers he could keep them, even as they disagreed. my question is whether or not trump will try to compel his current lawyers to try to make that argument again in court. >> there...

To mifepristone. as you've said, this is a drug that was approved decades ago and been safely used it's the most commonly used form of medication to terminate pregnancy. and the fact that we're even having this discussion is absolutely insane. this is -- just like dobbs was something we had never seen, constitutional right taken away by the supreme court, we have never had a federal judge say he knows better than the entire medical establishment including the fda about the safety and efficacy of a drug >> well, i mean, i think the standing question is one that has galled a lot of the lawyers w...

Be covering the costs of college graduates with high paying jobs. howard: right. tim, there was a debate within the biden administration at the time that one faction said this was unconstitutional. the president made the decision go ahead anyway, but that's barely been mentioned in the coverage. >> it's been mentioned in some of the coverage, and congress it's been tilted too far towards the biden administration. you see people at "the washington post" still critiquing it, "the washington post" editorial board, see some support from the los angeles times, sos the mixed. you're seeing a sense o...