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Open questions about why the federal prosecutors in the southern district of florida walked away from these kinds of charges. why epstein was allowed to plead to a minor state charge in that case and why the victims were intentionally excluded from the process. they are stunning charges for a number of reasons and given the posture, they are more stunning. >> the attorney answered very few questions, but why is this case being brought by the public corruption unit. does that sound as strange to you as it does to us? >> the answer is it's hard to tell. jeffrey berman, the u.s. attorney for the ...

Changes more stunning. quite frankly this is what should have happened in florida. these are the charges that the florida u.s. attorney's office could have brought and probably should have brought. i think this leaves a lot of open questions about why the federal prosecutors in the southern district of florida walked away from these kinds of charges. why epstein was allowed to plead to a minor state charge in that case and why the victims were intentionally excluded from the process. they are stunning charges for a number of reasons and given the posture, they are more stunning. >> the attorne...

Coverage right now. >> thanks so much, joe. hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle. we begin this morning with the growing calls for president trump's labor secretary alexander acosta to step down. one day after the legal controversy surrounding billionaire financier jeffrey epstein erupted here in new york city. epstein appeared in a courtroom monday pleading not guilty to charges he sex trafficked girls as young as 14 from 2002 to 2005. and he paid them hundreds of dollars in cash for, you guess it, sex. here's where secretary acosta comes into the picture. back in 2008, acosta was a u.s. attorney...

Take it so the president can't end run the case. >> do you think vance's indictments and his indictments here are going to work and they'll stave off the possibility that the president will try to pardon paul manafort? >> i think potentially -- potentially it could work. in all likelihood, the offices coordinated with each other in with how the federal indictments were charged narrowly tailored to allow for this other state charge. i think this looks a bit political on vance's part. if there's not a -- >> clearly, it's political. >> the question is, is he wasting prosecutorial resources on a m...

Residential mortgage fraud among them, one of the most serious. he's looking at one to three years minimum. eight to 25 years maximum. these are huge ranges. those would be inescapable. there's nothing the president can do to pardon on a state charge? >> that's exactly right. that's one perhaps motivation for the district attorney in bringing these charges is really as a backstop in case of a pardon on the federal charges. so they will involve some of the same conduct, and my guess is the defense will certainly raise arguments about double jeopardy. it is pretty easy to overcome that. even in ...