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president biden was in normandy today commemorating the 80th anniversary of d-day. while he was there he was asked about something totally unrelated. whether he would issue a pardon for his son hunter if he is convicted of felony gun vices. here is how he responded. >> as we sit here in normandy, your son hunter is on trial. let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? >> yes. >> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes. >> pretty clear answer there. but again, this is a yes or no question. and to be honest, it shouldn't be that...

Stirring beach about the importance of service. the importance of our freedom and democracy and all of those people who have died for our country and our country's way of life, that is what this election is about. >> totally. it is the starkest contrast imaginable. thank you both for your time guys. >> thank you. coming up, republicans try to court black voters by conjuring the specter of jim crow. first, american presidents can't pardon state convictions. especially their own state convictions. but donald trump has a plan for that. more on the legalese behind that coming up after the break....

Making a really stirring speech about the importance of service, thee importance of our freedom the importance of our democracy, and all those people who have died for our country and our country's way ofry life, which democracy and the rule of law, that is what this election is about. >> totally. it is the starkest contrast imaginable. congressman dan goldman and the great georgema conway, thank yo both for your time, guys. coming up, republicans try to court black voters by conjuring the specter of jim crow. my friend and colleague joy reid will be here to discuss that strategy coming up. ...

Importance of service, the importance of a freedom, the sort of democracy and all of those people who have died for our country and our country's way of life, which is democracy and the rule of law, that is what this election is about. >> totally, it is the starkest contrast imaginable. thank you both for your time, guys. coming up, repubs try to report black voters by conjuring jim crow. discussing that strategy, coming up. but first, american presidents can't part estate convictions, especially their own state convictions but donald trump has a plan for that. more on the legalese behind ...

Here, i don't think the united states supreme court sits to review state convictions generally, so maybe they will find some federal issue here and maybe there will be an appeal that will get there but i think it is tough and it is tough here particularly because the jury unanimously found trump guilty, not just of one count, but 34 separate convictions that are felonies and they did so under the legal standard that is the hardest approve for government officials to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. they did it unanimously with all 12. they ran the table as they had to do it in our system. very...