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The money, you know. that's something we can do in congress. if we did it in a bipartisan way. we were making progress in the senate with alexander and murray, and when the graham/cassidy bill came forward, that halted that. we can go back and put that funding in place, and i don't think the president going after his own party is helpful either. he's alienating them, and i think affecting the ability of both democrats and republicans to sort it out. >> the court did say it's not legal, correct? >> without congressional appropriations. >> he is stopping something which the court determined not ...

We think there could be some more state flexibility with guardrails in place to allow skates to get waivers in place place -- states to get waivers in place more quickly. we also think you could push down premiums by, say, 15 or 20% if you put in place a so-called reinsurance program, and that would a make the market more stable and bring plans back to the market which would help choice and competition for consumers. eric: what's that, when you talk about a reinsurance program? what do you mean? >> sure. if there was additional funding to take off the pressure from individuals with very high h...

Possible under this law. the words adequate and affordable in the law, that means nothing. what matters is obamacare made a strict statement that we can longer discriminate against the sick, we can no longer make mentally ill people pay more for the health care insurance, make women pay more because they need maternity coverage. it said basically we to longer discriminate in insurance markets. if there was a solution that gave state flexibility -- the affordable care act has a provision which says that states can experiment, states can do what they want so long as they provide the same level o...

Reduced their uninsurance rates towards red states that did not. whenever you think of state flexibility, it provides massively less federal resources and that will translate into people with fewer insurances. it reminds me of the old saying, the rich and poor are equally free to sleep under the bridge. they are like -- >> hold on, matt. we have to leave it there. you can come back tomorrow if you would like and we will continue to debate this. in this hour we will have a senator from the state of kentucky at the heart of all this, and they expanded medicaid under obamacare. what does it mean ...

Look, both have points that are accurate here, but jimmy kimmel is probably more on the side of right here. again, nuance is important and there are specific designs in this bill. as i noted, state flexibility is something that republicans, conservatives have been pushing very hard. it's the kind of essential idea behind changing the subsidies structure spiral, sending block grants to the states and letting states design their own systems. but in that flexibility becomes a reduction of the regulations. the regulations that make sure guaranteed cams are there, that make sure price protections a...