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President biden entered the race to now, biden is up five and warren is up nine and sanders is down six and kamala harris helding steady and pete buttigieg down three. what do you see that is significant? >> first, it is striking how much the national polling and the state polling have the same pattern of the five candidates separating from the rest of the field at this point. they are consistently the top five everywhere. there is no question that warren is rising at sanders' expense. that is indisputable. and in both national and state polling. but again the polling does underscore one struc...

By a lot and every poll that i see and i have we're doing well. i think we'll do well in michigan. traditionally it's democrat and i won it last time. i was up in wisconsin recently. i think we'll do very well there. you know, i think -- i think we're going to do great. >> just for the record, this is public polling, not the president's internal polling. national poll, quinnipiac had vice president biden up 13 points and other democrats up two. we're focusing on the biggest margins here. michigan, biden was leading the president by 12 points. again, it's early. that's a fact. it's a reputable ...

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And they are more or less taking away from bernie sanders i think in some of the undecideds. so it is a combination of things. but these two women have something very much in common. they are just very methodical in going after this one step after another. they know that it is a marathon. and they are building organizations, that is where most of warren's money has been going. and i think harris is picking her shots very carefully. >> and when you look at the national polls, those are national polls. so a poll out of florida which puts donald trump against joe bid biden, another reason why bid...